I like your site. How is the boat hunting going? More to come???!?!?!?
I just started this Blog over the weekend and will be adding more and more information. My main purpose for this site is to bring other people that live aboard or wish to live aboard together. I will be posting blogs on the do’s and don’t. What type of boats are good live aboard boats as well as good blue water boats. I will be filming videos on Marinas and living off the hook. I also want to get people leaving comments on their experiances of living aboard. I will discuss different products that make iving aboard a boat more friendly. One thing that i am excited about is interveiwing people that live aboard. So many topics to discuss and many more nights researching. If you know of any info you would like to see or direct me too then please post a comment. I think between all of the live aboard people and want to be live aboards we make make this site enlighting and exciting.
Now as far as the hunt for a live aboard blue water boat i am still searching. I met with a fellow sailor the other day and he had a boat he wanted to unload or under $25,000.0 It was the perfect blue water sailor however after being on boat i felt i needed a little bigger vessel. This was a 32 foot with no room for a shower or a large birth. So on to the next one.
Keep the dream alive
There are so many websites to go to for info. Check out noonsite.com , LOTS of info. Tells about different cruising areas,what to expect in some areas-like pirates!!! and checking in with customs. I also go to sail-japan.info , this is one place that is high on my “places to go to” list.
See ya!! Kathy
“Don’t dream your life, Live your dream”
I LOVE THE NEW LOOK!!!! How was the weekend trip?
Thanks Sail girl just checking out a few different web site designs.
I was able to Film the Yard of Broken dreams. Stay tuned for the up coming video blog.
Tried to leave comment on the Hans Christian but it wouldn’t take. Formosa 51 is the boat I would like to have but it’s TOO big for someone to single hand. The 47 would be alittle better but it is big too. I’m looking at a 35″ Tartan, PERFECT!!! Of course I still have my 33′ Hunter.
See ya!! sailgirl
See ya!! sailgirl
Comment: We’ve been living aboard for close to four months now, money ran out a while ago leaving us stuck at the dock for the time being. Ben is looking for a job at the moment so we can afford to get licensed, make necessary upgrades to Tygress, and put some money aside for cruising. Our 15 year old cat has come with us and is adapting well to life on a boat, he hasn’t sailed yet but i’m sure he’ll be fine. I wrote about him here -
At the moment all that is preventing us from cutting the dock lines is lack of funds and it’s really frustrating. No matter how simple you try and live your life money is always an issue, there’s no escaping the need for it!
Comment: If you let yourself, there will ALWAYS be an excuse. The cat thing, you’d be surprised how cats can change(unless she’s REALLY old). My cat, Tippi, has been on my boat while I’m working on her. She knows the ins and outs of that boat better than I do. She has also claimed the v-berth as her own. She doesn’t like to leave either, I have to say it’s time to eat, then she’s ready to go.
All this time I’ve been downsizing everything. I even have a friend who is going to take care of my truck and a few personel stuff when the time comes.
You are so right Sail Girl. I think i can convince my cat to grow sea legs. Especially if i am pulling in the odd salmon. She would like that very much. It is the personal responsiblity i have for love ones. In particular an older man who has been like a father to me. He is going to be 94 in 2 months and there is no way i can leave him now. I need to spend as much time with him as possible. His time is limited he could live another 6 years or 6 min. One never knows. So once the time with him is done then it will be time to seriously looking at heading out on the open ocean. I am however in persute of the that blue water vessel. There is no reason why i cant take shorter runs until the time comes. i have always wanted to circumnavigate Vancovuer island. I have done lots of coastal cruising but never out there in the deep blue. So i will still be able to take baby steps.
Thanks very much for your comment on my blog, Enjoying your posts, and your have very good taste in boats!
Bigrock, You may want to check out usauctions.com. There is a 32′ Westsail that will come up for auction on Feb. 2. She needs work but what boat doesn’t. She may sell cheap. See ya!! sailgirl
Hello Sail Girl
Thanks for the heads up. I went and checked it out and she looks like a great project boat for somebody. I think for me way too much work with my level of skills. I am sure I could acquire the skills but over time but I want to spend my time sailing and exploring not in a boat yard where many sailors go to let their dreams die.
I made a list of the potential work the West Sail would need after being submerged. We are talking work on the engine, transmission, wiring, electronics, wood work, upholstery, winches and every inch of the bot would have to be dried out and free of mould. A huge undertaking and at least $30,000. The boat may be worth $4000, to $5000. she would also take the right person with time and skills to restore her out of love.
There is a saying, go small, go now.
Curt, just found your blog while looking on youtube for liveaboards. Have you ever been in contact with the Vancouver Island Nautical Residents Association? They may be able to provide you with lots of boat info, and there are probably lots of residents willing to tell you their stories. Like us! We live aboard a 40 foot converted fishing boat and have done since her initial renos were completed in 1998. This is my husbands second liveaboard adventure – in fact he has been living aboard boats since 1990 when he launched his first boat in Ucluelet, on Vancouver Island. We know of the stigma of liveaboards and we also know of some marinas on the West and East Coasts of the Island that do allow liveaboards. If you’d like to chat with us (we are currently living aboard in Ladysmith) send me an email and we’ll continue the conversation. We like what you’re doing and maybe we have something to offer your blog experiences. Cheers for now.
Hi Curt, I love your website. Great stuff going on here. I built a 37′ double ender in Abbotsford in trucked it out to Shelter Island Marina and finished it off there. That was a long time ago. Back in the early 90′s. But due to relationship issues, I lost the boat. But, that was the good news although it didn’t feel like it at the time. I moved on to a smaller boat, a Hunter 27 which was nice but then I sold that and moved down here to Oregon. That’s life. But if I hadn’t done that, I would not have met my wife and she is the best thing that ever happened to me. So, here I am boatless but happy. Go figure. Does that mean I wouldn’t mind having a boat? No. But as long as I have my wife, I’m happy anyway.
The reason I am writing this is that when I saw your video on Youtube about the Yard of Broken Dreams, I thought you might be interested in the novel that I wrote that takes place there. It’s called “Getting There” and it’s available on Amazon.com. It’s all about a guy who works on boats from there and his big dream is to go offshore sailing. But there are “dreamers, do-er’s and done-ers” when it comes to offshore sailing. That boatyard is full of dreamers. Let me know if you’re interested in reading the novel. You can find it on Amazon as “Getting There” by Michael Matthews. Forgive the shameless plug but it’s right up your alley.
Thanks for the response to the Video and Blog on the “Yard of broken Dreams”.
As I mentioned in my Video it had been years since I had been there and it was some place that I always wanted to go back to. I was surprised like you when it had grown so much and was much more built up with shops and a paved yard.
I will definitely check out your novel ” Getting There” it sounds like a good read.
Thanks again for watching and reading
I have recently stumbled accross your video’s on you tube and must say there is a great deal of apeal to this lifestyle choice. I was wondering if i lived in the states such as Ohio perhaps up by the lake. Would this be a suitable place in wich to hunt down a blue water sail boat;l particularly a ” handy man ” special? I am presently attempting to achieve a 2 year degree. I am a single father with full custody of a small 3 year old daughter right now. So as for a reality it would not for some time. I believe passage to the ocean is possible from the lakes correct? Is it possible to find a blue water vessel in this erea? One to fix up? A used ones like in the lot you showed on youtube with all the boats being worked on diligently. Ithe world as well. would be a fasinating oportunity for my daughter to travel and see t
Yes of course Ohio would be a good place to look for a blue water boat. I know that from Lake Erie, where Cleveland is located there are many boat yards and marinas. The nice thing about being on the great lakes is it is a great place to learn to sail in a relatively safe environment. You can also access the Atlantic ocean thru lake Ontario and then on to the St Lawrence. There are locks to deal with but it is designed for both large and small ships. As far as a small child and exploring the world thee are many families that sail full time around the world. The children are home schooled and although the space is tight they seem to bond with others very well. If you are a single dad then it might be a problem with a young child because that could take two people but when your daughter is older no problem. Check out Laura Dekker from the Netherlands. She was raised on boats and just sailed around the world singled handed at the age of 15. If she can do we can do it.
Thanks for posting videos of your boat “shopping”. Great fun. You’ve got some great choices on the west coast – very salty. I’m looking forward to a more in depth video of your new home. I lived aboard for 6 years on Lake Ontario. My first boat was a 1978 Bayfield 32 which I lived on for 4 years. I then traded up to a 1974 Trojan 36 aft cabin powerboat and then after a year and a half traded it for a 1969 Chris Craft Commander sport fisherman. I was 23 or 24 when I started living aboard and unfortunately, never did realize my dream of heading south (although I believe the new owner of my Bayfield took it to the British Virgin Islands). After living aboard, year round in a cold climate for six years, I took a job away from the water and got the itch to get a house and a family. Well time flies and I’m now 47 (today in fact). Perhaps I’ll get another big boat someday and finally sail off into the sunset. In the mean time, thanks for letting us come along on your journey.
Thanks Phil for the response. It has been a busy time with the purchase of a boat and trying to settle in. I am still living on and but working towards moving aboard. It is going to take some adjustment but I know it is for me. Today I was at work dreaming about sailing the south Pacific. Who knows ?I have a 5 year plan. Cheers mate
I can’t post links on YouTube, so thought I would try here.. Here is some “light” reading on the subject of composting toilets on boats…
Curtis, you expressed some distress that you could not continue to call your Westsail “Second Wind.” I wonder if perhaps the solution would be to rename her what you have already been calling her: “My Second Wind.” Just add “My” to her current name. Alternatively, you could call her “Night Wind” or “Second Self” or some other name that allows you to retain one of the words in her current name. In any case, I’m enjoying your videos and thank you for sharing your adventure. All the best, Matt
I have a story about Living aboard boats.com that I have never told anyone until now after following your web site and You tube channel.
I owned a sailing boat and moored her in a marina, until I was made redundant on Christmas Eve three years ago and my world collapsed. I sold my boat and cars as soon as could to cut my expenses.
After sometime with no job and sold every think I had to keep a roof over my head I began to wonder if I had done the right things in my life. When you are so low some time you take chances that you would never take. I had been following boat prices on the internet being a keen sailor and sore the dream boat of my life which I just had enough money left to buy and was run down. I bought the boat and rented out my house to live on my boat, I now wonder why did I go to work? I was forced into this life style which has changed me and my world.
Living on boats.com is more serious for some people then you may think. Thank you for putting the time and effort into your web site and videos.
That’s an amazing story Curly Head and you are so right. It looks like we both had similar paths when it comes to boats and living aboard. I was in the same situation about 5 years ago. Financially my world came tumbling down around me. When I look back it really had nothing to do with me but the greed of others. I had a boat which was financed and far to expensive to keep. After liquidating most of my assets I was left in a position with only what I owned. As the saying goes there is always some good that comes from bad and in my case it was no different. Today I have rebuilt and own every thing I have. I have no debt and can pretty much do as I choose. My biggest problem I struggle with is the pull of society trying to get me back in to the Matrix. Our society is designed to keep us working for the system. We are breed to pay rent, mortgages, taxes, insurance and all other bills society demands of us to keep things going. I find that every day it tries to pull me back in. It is scary because before one knows it you are sucked back in and your freedom is gone. Wow I just wrote another blog and never realized it. Cheers mate and thanks for sharing
Hi Captain Curt, thanks for your reply. Where I’m planning on going this winter there is a chap building 36 foot boat he plans to live on because he was made redundant. He has put everything into it and is living in his car in the boat yard. The workmanship is outstanding.
I would love to see some pictures. I always like to see ones dreams come to life.
I will ask permission and keep you informed
Hello, Your story is resonating with me; I too am in the planning phase of an escape from the materialistic nothingness of society with the intention of buying a cruiser in the next 3-4 months. How are you planning on subsidizing your adventure? This has been a great concern for me I have sufficient funds to purchase the boat, refit her as necessary, etc. but I am concerned that my adventure may be limited to a few years without the ability to generate some income.
The Westsail is a nice boat I’m looking at an O’Day 40 whose owner has been cruising / living aboard for the past 20 years so she’s pretty well fitted. A little pricey but I don’t want to spend months or worse getting a boat ready so I’m willing to pay a higher price to get going sooner.
Have a great day.
Thanks for the message. Its great to hear that there is another person out there like my self. When it comes to society’s demands on us I think what is life for. spending the best years of my life in this matrix only to produce for the machine. Up until 2008 I was a happy citizen working 6 to 7 days a week running my own company and employing many workers who where also contributing to the machine. Then as 2008 hit things changed. Like many people economically my savings and retirement contributions where devastated. I guess it was time for the man to take his cut. It was then that i realized never again. I thought what is life for? Am I here to work for the system until 65 then live another 10 years as an old man. Or do I do what I can to grasp at life and make it happen now. I choose the latter. I do have to say I am not there yet but getting closer every day. The first thing I had to do was get out of debt. It took almost three years but I did it. No payments, no mortgage, no debt what so ever. I own every thing I have. Next was to save for a boat capable to live on and if I choose one to take me around the world. That is now done. So now i am entering the final stag. That is refitting and moving aboard. This is where things get hard. That is breaking the mold and the pull of society to keep me conforming. I will spend the day on the boat sanding and painting in small dusty spaces then go home to a large space with all my stuff and a huge flat screen TV. I think wow do I want to give this up. Then I think in order to keep it I have to be a slave to the system. There is no way that is going to happen. Never again. Now to your question. I have to say I really don’t have the answer except to say your not going to die. It is true if we believe it. I have never went with out a meal. I have always worked. I will always make it. If you think about it your boat provides your shelter and if you want you can live on the hook for free. The ocean can provide your protein and it will always be there. Your other food you need to buy. Along with boat repairs, personal items and fuel ETC. That is when you work. I am currently trying to have 5 years worth of money saved in the sailing kitty. Currently I am at 3 years that is why I am still a slave to the system. When I say this I am working on a budget of $1000.00 us dollars a month for one person. My plan is to supplement that income with other sources of income. I can do any thing. I can fish, manage a marina, Charter, general handy man stuff, Teach English, watch rich peoples boats there are all sorts of things. Worst case scenario I fly home work for 6 moths and return for another year. Please note that when I write this I think, “God can I really do this”? See I still question my self. It is all abut taking the plunge and just doing it.
Ran into your video “The Yard Of Broken Dreams..”, it looked familiar and at the end realized it was Shelter Island, the yard where we finished our boat. I also wandered around looking at all the project boats. We did complete our plan and my Father’s dream http://www.idlewildexpedition.com/ Enjoying reading your website.
I wish you much success.
That’s a great story. A boat yard is an amazing place. Every one there has a dream. Some do a simple upgrade or refit. Others dream of crossing an ocean. Its great to hear your father fulfilled his dream.
I am curious about what it was that turned you off of the Pender Island kit boat that you viewed.
I too am in the market for a similar boat to the one you purchased and I’m just wondering why?
The Westsail Kit boat 0n Pender was a pretty good boat for a kit boat. I know the owner was very ill and the boat needed to go. He was and perhaps still is very willing to take almost any reasonable offer. The problem I had with the boat was the neglect in many areas. Perhaps it was due to his illness I am not to sure. I was concerned about the engine over heating and not being attended too. There were no extras like electronics, Epirb, life raft, extra sails, up to date equipment virtually nothing. When I sat down and added what I need to bring the boat to a state ready to cross an ocean the numbers did not make sense to me. I knew I could get every thing I wanted with all the extras for a real good price. So that is what I did when I purchased my Westsail in Portland. I purchased a boat that ticked almost all the boxes and perhaps more. If some one purchased the Westsail on Pender for no more then $20,000 then it would be worth putting in an additional $20,000 to bring her up to date . Other then that to me she was not to be my boat. The Westsail I did end up purchasing has proven to be an amazing boat and will be an excellent Blue water home in the near future.
I just found this web site while looking for live aboard groups and I have to say well done. I just moved onto my Northern 29 at the end of August and even though there have been some challenges I love my decision to do this. It has been a dream of mine for many years and I finally decided not to waste another twenty years. I plan on heading south in a few years once I find the boat to do it in in the mean time I am going to love every moment of my new life and enjoy the great sailing of Lake Ontario.
Welcome aboard. It great to chat with another live aboard. I agree I am not wasting any more time either. I have been working on my Westsail to get her ready to move aboard. I plan to be on her full time at the end of December Every one says won’t you be cold? I always say it is going to be a life style I have to get use to . Freedom is not always free we need a little struggle one in while. Check out my You tube channel as I try to post a video blog each week
I get the same comment over and over “Isn’t it going to be cold?” I have in-closed the deck and so far not having any issues with the cold. I am truly looking forward to my adventure and the day I set my sails towards the south.
That’s great to hear. Are you a young guy or retired? the reason I ask is I am always curious when it comes to earning an income long term. I my self try not to make long term plans as I have learned thru life that things never go according to plan. I will say that sailing south seems to be more and more the plan every day. I would like to sail north as well and see the BC coast up to Alaska. Time will tell.
I am 46 and I have been dreaming this dream for 43 years or longer. I know that life has its way of changing and causing dreams to be put on hold. I moved aboard when I was in my early twenties and my mistake was not paying attention to my heart and I allowed people (family) convince me I was making a mistake. I won’t make that same mistake again, I work in an industry that allows me to work hard and make good money but it also allows me to take time off when ever I want (film industry). I also have people around me now that support my choices and look forward to joining me along the voyage. I would also love to sail up the coast of BC towards Alaska I would have to say it would be a true dream come true. I have a great sailing community where I am as well as a great live aboard community and its the best neighborhood I have ever lived in.
I am 47 and have had my live aboard dream since age 15. I too have experienced friends and loved ones question my dreams but I think most either do it out of love or perhaps out of their own fear of experiencing dreams. Perhaps I will see you when I cross into the Caribbean or maybe you will be anchored in Nuka Hiva French Polynesia one day.
Hey Adam. Best of luck with your dream. I too had the liveaboard dream for most of my life. Built a 37 foot double ender that was my offshore ticket. Alas, I fell in with the wrong person to share that dream with and never made it. But as is often the case, the experience opened another door and put me where I am today. I will tell you that as much as I regret not going offshore sailing, I’m so happy I am where I am today.
If you are interested, I have written a novel called “Getting There” that takes place in the Gulf Islands of British Columbia. It’s a sailing adventure. If you would like a good read, you can check it out at http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0088DH11C as a Kindle ebook. I met Larry Pardy once and he told me that the most difficult part of going offshore sailing is getting there. I imagine he knows best.
I’ve enjoyed the blog and the videos very much; I’m a bit of YouTube tragic for sailing, boat restorations and cruising sites. May I suggest two sites you may not have found, boatworks today (the best fiberglass boat repair site) and cruising lea lea (a couple living the dream). I live in Sydney Australia and find the availability, variety and especially the price of older cruising blue water boats in north America truly amazing.
Good luck on your travels
I watch Cruising Lea Lea and I admire the both of them living the dream. I will have to check out Boat works today. I am always looking for great video blogs on YouTube of peoples lives aboard boats. There are some real interesting people out there and I like to learn allot from them.
Being following your journey with great interest. Many years ago did something similar and it shaped me as a person.
Anyways, good luck with cutting the cord as you vacate your onshore abode.
Although you probably have one, found a link for a 70′s Westsail Owner’s Manual.
Thanks Greg. I do have a manual and all other sorts of literature with the boat. It was an amazing find when I purchased my Westsail. The previous owner kept meticulous records of the boat and every thing that was done to her. I also received 2 truck loads of sailing gear with her so I really lucked out. I am going to check out the link and thanks for info. If you happen to find a good site on how to convert an ice box to a fridge please let me know. That is a project I would like to tackle.
Found this on the Westsail Owners’ forum:
Tom’s boat name sounds familiar
Thomas Koehl wrote:Werner, If you get really ambitious and want to rebuild your icebox for refrigeration, I did that on Second Wind. I had no liner (or anything inside the icebox except for the plain plywood outer box) and had to start from scratch. I came up with a design with about an R24 insulating factor and just over 5 cu ft of space. The plans are packed, but I could probably find them if you are interested. in addition to the dual lift-off lids, the entire top of the icebox can be removed with six screws. I did that so that I could add refrigeration at some future date without tearing things apart. The inner liner is 1/2 inch plywood with a white formica layer to protect it and keep it clean, per Bud’s suggestion. It took a while to fabricate it, especially the stepped lids, and it’s hardly lightweight, but it’s plenty sturdy. I also have a Fein if you need to use one – let me know asap before I pack for the trip to FL on the 20th. -Tom Koehl
I wonder if you could convert the guts out of a $150 Canadian Tire refrigeration cooler to work in the icebox?
What condition was your Westsail in when you bought her, and did you do all the repairs yourself? Im interested in a Westsail that has had nothing done to it since new and am wondering what to expect in terms of work to be done and cost, fortunately the boat has spent 95 percent of her life in fresh water.
Thanks for any details and great site
My Westsail was in great shape when I purchased her. She came with all the records of the work that was done thru the years. Her engine was replaced which was important to me and her sail inventory was also replaced. These two thing and the hull where the most important things I looked at. The rest of my boat was in great shape but cosmetically she was dated. That was fine with me. I also took into consideration the owner. He owned the boat for over 20 years and was a real sailor. I knew just by his record keeping that he loved this boat and always looked after her. That was enough for me to make a decision. You cant go wrong with a Westsail. Just me careful with some kit boats. Some where not fitted to well while others where fitted amazingly. Mine was a factory finished boat and the wood work and electrical where done to factory standards.